Posts by Bloody Hotdogs!

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Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

by Witness 007 in

witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

-they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

not all of them were of gigantic size.

Bloody Hotdogs!

@ DATA-DOG

To be clear, you are right, they do not claim to know exactly how long the creative days were (as they once did). Since the 1990s they have used words like "indefinite" and "unknown" to describe them. However, at precisely the same time, in other articles, they use the more limiting expression "thousands" of years.

"Indefinite" or "unknown" does not contradict "thousands" of years. Most importantly it does not contradict the notion of approximately 7000 years, as indicated last in 1998.

JWs should be called to account for their real beliefs - even the ones they are trying to hide behind vague language.

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Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

by Witness 007 in

witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

-they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

not all of them were of gigantic size.

Bloody Hotdogs!

@ DATA-DOG

I collected all the Watchtower quotes I could find on creative days here:

CREATIVE DAYS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

They have stated the "thousands" of years idea as late as 2014. In 1998 they told us exactly what it means: 7000-ish years, inferred from the length of creative day seven.

Scientists are finding very interesting residue within dinosaur fossils. I could only refer you to the scientific literature for more information. Being 70million or more years old, however, rules out the ability to carbon date. Remember, carbon dating is based on the ratio of carbon12 and carbon14, but after that much time, there is no detectable carbon14 left.

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Watchtower 1973 - "Dinosuars WERE on Noah's Ark"!!! College educated response??

by Witness 007 in

witnesses hate college education, and why would you need one when you have our "spiritual food" the watchtower answering science questions.. watchtower 1973 july 15 p.7 questions from readers.. "when did dinosaurs go extinct?

-they may have disappeared during the flood of noahs day.

not all of them were of gigantic size.

Bloody Hotdogs!

I collected all the dinosaur-related Watchtower quotes I could find here:

DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

I think there's a case to be made that they still condone this kind of thinking.

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Hodgkins Lymphoma Returns

by azor in

my sister was diagnosed with hodgkins lymphoma earlier this year.

we thought treatment worked as she finished her chemo treatment a month ago.

i just got a call from her that she has lumps on her legs and she has been extraordinarily tired.

Bloody Hotdogs!

Hi Azor,

I just went through stage IV Hodgkin Lymphoma. Obviously, I don't know if this is the case with your sister, but I still have many symptoms even though I have been repeatedly scanned and I am cancer free.

Also, it's not particularity common for blood to be an issue with Hodgkins... I had to take white-cell boosters by injection, but never any blood transfusions or blood products. So, hopefully blood will not be an issue?

Cheers,

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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help

by Lee Elder in

the vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.

if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.

send as many details as you can recall.

Bloody Hotdogs!

See my post for one more:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289351/reality-refusing-blood-happened

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Raining before the Flood?

by GrownMidget in

i remember at my teen years when i was studying with a brother that he said to me that there was no rain before the flood.

instead there was this mist that you have.

never before or after this have i heard something like this.

Bloody Hotdogs!

All references to the "water canopy", "vapour canopy", "heavenly ocean", etc... can be found here:

MAGIC SKY OCEAN

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Why doesn't God need a creator, while the Universe does?

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

i asked this question of a jw that called on me yesterday: "if the universe requires a creator, why doesn't god?

if the universe must have a beginning, why doesn't god?

he claims to have an answer, but it must wait for next time he calls.. i'm hoping you guys can give me a heads-up as to what he will say.

Bloody Hotdogs!

I asked this question of a JW that called on me yesterday: "If the universe requires a creator, why doesn't God? If the universe must have a beginning, why doesn't God? And, how do you know?".

He claims to have an answer, but it must wait for next time he calls.

I'm hoping you guys can give me a heads-up as to what he will say. I've never had this conversation with a JW before.

Thanks!!

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Deconstructing Splanes 'Generation' explanation

by Splash in

at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".

this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.

obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.

Bloody Hotdogs!

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bottom line on new generation thinking -very simple

by nowwhat? in

when they came up with the overlapping generations new lite, they must have received alot of "where's the scriptural precedent?!

so they came up with the account of joseph and his brothers to shut them up.

still they are trying to make a round peg fit in a square hole to fit 1914 in the equation.

Bloody Hotdogs!

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The fall of Jericho - PROOF!

by Bloody Hotdogs! in

from the november 2015 watchtower:.

what have archaeologists found that shows that jericho was captured in a short time?.

joshua 6:10-15, 20 says that the israelite soldiers marched around the city of jericho once a day for six days.

Bloody Hotdogs!

@ FadingTruth Thank you for clarifying. Remember, I am a graduate of "Watchtarded University".

By "entire dig site", I mean Kathleen Kenyon's entire dig site.

It looks as though I have confused the two relevant destructions of Jericho. The massive walls fell a thousand years before Joshua, and a bronze-age "backwater" fell 150 years before Joshua. The grain dates from the later destruction.

The double city wall Garstang associated with the Israelite invasion in about 1400 B.C.E. in fact dated to the Early Bronze Age some 1,000 years earlier. The destruction of Garstang’s City IV, which he had dated to about 1400 B.C.E., occurred, according to Kenyon, at the end of the Middle Bronze Age, about 1550 B.C.E.14

I didn't see Wood's additional note about carbon dates, because it's not in the actual article. Nevertheless, from what I have read in other sources these earlier dates are stronger than ever, based on the latest calibration curves.

I still think it's a stretch to say that the grain could only point to a short siege and a non-plundering conquerer. The grain discovered and tested was "charred" - surely, even a plundering army wouldn't want it!

So... what I should have said is: Based on some grain, dating from 150 years too early, the Watchtower concludes that the bible story is true, even though the "walls of Jericho" fell a thousand years before.